Fidesz's Supermajority in the UK and Non-Majority in Germany

2014. április 10. 09:31

The victory of the governing parties in Hungary raised reasonable questions about the fairness of the electoral law. So I looked at other systems and tried to calculate what outcome would such results produce in other countries.

2014. április 10. 09:31
Balogh Ákos Gergely

A hot topic in Hungary right now is how much the new electoral law has affected the new parliament's seating and whether it is fair. One of our readers, Attila Hajdú, gave me the idea of plugging the results of Hungary's parliamentary elections into the electoral systems of other countries to see the outcome.

In countries with a strictly proportional electoral system, where people vote only on party lists (like in Israel, the Netherlands or Slovakia), it's pretty simple: Fidesz-KDNP's 44.54 percent of the vote would give them, more or less, the same share of  seats (a bit more because of the votes cast on lists that failed to meet the 5 percent threshold), so they wouldn't get a majority on their own.

Countries with a non-proportional electoral system are much more exciting. First of all, let's look at the UK, where the BBC's calculator gives us a perfect tool for such an experiment. I've chosen the LibDem's to be Fidesz because of the matching colours. MSZP and its allies got Labour, and – only for technical reasons – Jobbik got to be the Conservatives in this model (I also tried it with Fidesz as Labour, and the results were pretty much the same but with an even higher majority). The outcome looked quite impressive:

It's such a stable supermajority, that maybe it could even convince journalists from Great Britain who seem to be worried about the Hungarian electoral system's bias. And it's a model based on the regional specialities of the UK. If we simply apply the UK's system in Hungary, so we keep only the constituencies and get rid of the party lists, the outcome would be even more lopsided, with 96 seats for Fidesz (for 44.54 percent), 10 for MSZP (for 25.99 percent), 0 for Jobbik (20.54 percent) and LMP (5.26 percent):

I couldn't find such a well-visualized calculator for other countries, but in Germany the Greens had an application for last year's elections. 

The outcome looked like this (it's not that fancy, as I told you): 

Out of 645 seats, Fidesz-KDNP would get 298, MSZP and its allies 174, Jobbik 137, LMP 36. The German electoral system would give Fidesz-KDNP 46.2 percent of the seats for the 44.5 percent of the vote, so it's not even enough for a simple majority.

Unfortunately I couldn't find such calculators for France or Italy, and I was really surprised that I couldn't find any for the U.S. House and Senate elections either. In case someone can help me out with such applications, let me know in a comment, I'd love to run a calculation for these countries as well.

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2017. február 20. 05:37
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Carl
2017. február 20. 05:37
I'd also add that the state media in the UK isn't quite so partial, that the government doesn't run election campaigns for 2 years out of the public purse and that there is a somewhat less 'slavish' mentality amongst elected representatives. Once again, by stripping away cultural and contextual factors, you're left with a fairly meaningless bunch of numbers.
Carl
2017. február 20. 05:36
A few points here: - The idea of the UK electoral system being a model for other countries is one that is barely credible amongst political scientists outside Hungary. In fact, few people in the UK would suggest that it was perfect or provides the necessary degree of proportionality. - That said, it is an evolved, mature system whereby landslide majorities are somewhat mitigated by fixed voting patterns in a large percentage of constituencies. It's highly unlikely that Conservatives win in the South Wales Valleys, and equally unlikely that Labour win in Surrey Heath. There are complex, socio-cultural factors behind this map, which have evolved over 200 years, if not more. Class and ethnicity continues to influence the geography of this map in a diverse country of over 60 million. These factors are much, much weaker in Hungary, with barely more than 20 years of free elections. Taking the system out of its socio-geographical context makes it look even worse! - Looking at this, I suggest that the idea that Hungary should use the UK as a model/benchmark for a political system, rather than some of the more stable countries in the region (eg Slovenia) implies either extreme cynicism or stupidity, or a combination of both, perhaps. Political parties are weakening in the UK and remain very weak in Hungary. As you illustrate here, the UK's electoral system isn't fair! Thanks for the interesting post.
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